2004-11-30 [RabidSphinx]: oh...i never had a problem with doing that...

2004-11-30 [1st Font]: If you are going to get in to a long depth conversation take it to a private wiki, or use messages.

2004-11-30 [Sunrose]: On the drugsmatter: there is a rule against selfmutilation and a rule about images conflicting against the general style of elfpack: We don't want to see pictures of kids injecting themselves with drugs or whatever! And copyrighted images still aren't allowed by law, but that doesn't mean we have to state it in the rules; the law is valid no matter what we state on Elfpack. We prefer reports breaking the rules stated on this wiki though :)

2004-11-30 [Yuriona]: So does this mean that celebrity photos are still to be removed from member's houses?

2004-11-30 [Sunrose]: We can't say they are allowed...

2004-11-30 [RabidSphinx]: hmmm...

2004-12-01 [Kiddalee]: Images that conflict with the general style of Elfpack can also be taken off. Could this be defined better? What is Elfpack's "general style" and what conflicts with it?

2004-12-01 [RabidSphinx]: *shrugs* i don't know...maybe things that promote hate, like nazi stuff or racist stuff...i never really knew so i figured it was up to the guards themselves to make the call...i of course, if subject to that call, would fight them on it...

2004-12-01 [Sunrose]: if you are a rat, that's not smart to say ;)

2004-12-01 [RabidSphinx]: hehe...you know i would fight you guys...but if it *really* is agaisn't the *posted* rules, i wouldn't have it on my house...(^_^) it's the inturpreted rules such as "going against the general look" that i would fight you on...you would have to give me a very clear deffinition of what is the "look" of the site is for me to be satisfide...that rule is the only i have never "ratted" someone out on before...i have never had any real way to call it, so i just leave it...

2004-12-01 [Sunrose]: if I say it's not smart to say as a rat and you say it again, how smart does that make you? the reason I say this is that rule has a reason and I don't want riots about it.

2004-12-01 [RabidSphinx]: oh....(^_^)...kk...makes sense...*twitch*...i think i have a stalker...my computer says i have a webcam when i know i don't...i think someone is hiding one in my room...(>.<)

2004-12-01 [Sunrose]: :o

2004-12-01 [RabidSphinx]: people on Yahoo are like, "you have a cam?" and i'm like, no...and they yell at me saying i am lying, they can see i have one...i get so confuzed...i used to think i was just paranoid (which i am actually) but i *really* think someone is watching me....(O.o)

2004-12-01 [Sunrose]: then change the settings..

2004-12-01 [RabidSphinx]: i did...i told yahoo i had *no* camera...and turned off all opptions...damn that yahoo! well, i am *still* on the look out for a hidden camera...paranoid, who me?

2004-12-01 [Sunrose]: dunno..! :p

2004-12-01 [RabidSphinx]: lol...maybe it's [Whim] he is out to get me...

2004-12-01 [1st Font]: get you to do what?

2004-12-01 [RabidSphinx]: *looks around all paranoid* he has been stalking me...i don't know what he wants...*slips under desk to hide*

2004-12-01 [Sunrose]: sex..

2004-12-01 [RabidSphinx]: eep! *hides*

2004-12-01 [Sunrose]: you like [Whim], don't you? that's why you two are always bickering, that's just sexual attraction really..

2004-12-01 [RabidSphinx]: ewwww! no! i hate him! he is the biggest jerk...he's annoying, immature, conceded, and an ass...no...ewww...*shudders at the thought*

2004-12-01 [1st Font]: OMG that's the excate way i would descript the Sunster!! jk :P

2004-12-01 [Sunrose]: :O well you know I think ur sexi rite [1st Font]y? // [RabidSphinx]: I know you love him, you wants to hug him, kiss him, love him and lock him in a cage for ever and ever to keep! :D

2004-12-01 [RabidSphinx]: *vomits* no! evil [Whim] keep him away!!

2004-12-01 [1st Font]: mwhahaha tis love!!!

2004-12-01 [Sunrose]: ROFLMAO!!!

2004-12-01 [RabidSphinx]: it is not! he is a crazy stalker! *hides under bedcovers*

2004-12-01 [1st Font]: love - stalking = same thing...

2004-12-01 [RabidSphinx]: he is the one with the obsission...not me...and it isn't the same thing! *whines* you are all so evil! DIE [Whim]!!!

2004-12-01 [1st Font]: OMG you are talking ill of a council member!!!

2004-12-01 [RabidSphinx]: hahah! yah, for weeks now...but just about him...you all rock, he is crazy...i'll stop...sorry [Whim] i don't wish death upon you...only that you get mauled by a moose...

2004-12-01 [Sunrose]: omg you SO want him NOW! you can say he's obsessed but you have been talking about him on every wiki I see you!

2004-12-02 [RabidSphinx]: no i don't!! only the ones with him on it, which just happen to be the ones you also go to...

2004-12-02 [Whim]: Wow...I think you're all in love with me...hehe. Sorry ladies...and Font...but well...nevermind, I guess I'm not taken. But regardless of that...um...ok, what the hell. You can all keep wanting me.

2004-12-02 [RabidSphinx]: lol...they can HAVE you...*hides under bedcovers again*

2004-12-02 [Whim]: You don't have to be ashamed. Lots of people think I'm hot.

2004-12-02 [RabidSphinx]: *peeks out from under warm bedcovers* you are not "hot" you're an ass...

2004-12-02 [Whim]: One fine piece of ass?

2004-12-02 [RabidSphinx]: lol...no...a jack-ass...

2004-12-02 [Whim]: Oh, so you're into the whole beastiality thing?

2004-12-02 [RabidSphinx]: eeewww...no...that's really a nasty thought...*hides again*

2004-12-02 [Whim]: so what fetish are you hinting at?

2004-12-02 [RabidSphinx]: um...fetish? well, my bf knows i am fond of leather straps, gags, whips, and chains...but shhh...you don't need to know that...you are just a jack-ass...

2004-12-02 [Whim]: OH! I get it now. You want to strap me up and ride me like a horse or horselike animal. Ok...I'm glad ya cleared that up.

2004-12-02 [RabidSphinx]: ahhhhh! *tugs on hair* NO! you pig! but tying you down, stipping you naked, and leaving you there for someone else to find would be really funny...(^_^)

2004-12-02 [Whim]: You me like a kinky bondage threesome?

2004-12-02 [RabidSphinx]: lol...no...more like, we are at a party and you want some action...so i lead you up to an empty bedroom, get you all excited with the thought of a good time, stip you of your clothing, throw you down on the bed playfully, sit on your stomach and tie your arms and legs down securly, smile, then leave...making sure the door is left open, and wait for someone to find you while i laugh and have a beer downstairs with the rest of the party...(^_^)

2004-12-02 [Whim]: But your plan is flawed. I'm an extremely laid back person. If you did that...well...I'd probably just take a nap.

2004-12-02 [RabidSphinx]: hahaha! oh-well, at least you would be out of the way so i wouldn't be bothered by your jack-assy self for the rest of the night...

2004-12-02 [Whim]: well, there's also the part where I don't like parties and the other part where I'm not the type who would attempt to have sex in a house full of people unless it was with someone who's pretty close to me and I've probably already had sex with before and I still probably wouldn't let myself get tied down at a party anyway, so really, there's just a very low chance of that situation ever happening.

2004-12-02 [RabidSphinx]: yah...i don't party, and have a large enough phobia of men that i wouldn't really do that...my boyfriend can't even get me to were a middrift shirt...i am a *little* shy...but just a little kinky...(^_-)

2004-12-02 [Whim]: I don't trust self-proclaimed shy people who are kinky.

2004-12-02 [RabidSphinx]: lol...i am not selfproclaimed...my buddies all tell me to stop being so "goddamned shy all the time" and i am kinky in theory, not yet tested...if you don't think i'm shy, then believe me when i say i'm prude...i have had about 47 online guys tell me so...

2004-12-02 [RabidSphinx]: besides...i don't trust *anyone*....

2004-12-02 [Whim]: well, you can't claim to be kinky unless you actually do it. Everyone things they want to be whipped and tied down and all this other violent stuff, but they've never done it. Less than half of the people you talk to who say they want all that actually enjoy that. Few people actually enjoy that degree of pain and defenselessness.

2004-12-02 [RabidSphinx]: oh...i never said *i* liked to be whipped...i like doing the whiping, which i *have* done...and far as the tying down part...well, i have done that too, just without the sex part...my bf is extreamly kinky...all into bondage and stuff, so i hear about it and to tell you the truth, i like the idea of smaking him about a little...

2004-12-02 [Whim]: well, neither counts as kinky then. It's really easy to whip someone. It's also really easy to be tied down and just sit there doing nothing. That's not really kinky at all. Sadistic perhaps, as far as the whipping goes, but not kinky.

2004-12-02 [RabidSphinx]: aww...spoil my fun...oh-well, give me a year or two and i can tell you if i really am kinky...

2004-12-02 [Whim]: I'm not waiting a year or two to see whether or not you're kinky. I don't care nearly enough to wait 1 or 2 days.

2004-12-02 [RabidSphinx]: lol...actually...it's good that you don't care....and may it stay that way...

2004-12-02 [Whim]: psh...that doesn't mean I'm gonna stop bothering you...lol.

2004-12-02 [RabidSphinx]: damn it!

2004-12-02 [Sunrose]: [Whim]: oh yes, I am SO in love. come sex mi plz! and [1st Font] 2..! :D // [RabidSphinx]: sex him already! my god, you take so loong!

2004-12-02 [RabidSphinx]: never...(>.<)

2004-12-02 [Sunrose]: [Whim] take her now, I think she's ready..

2004-12-02 [RabidSphinx]: *runs away screaming*

2004-12-02 [Sunrose]: I think other cultures might see that as an initiation ritual..

2004-12-02 [RabidSphinx]: *keeps running* yes? well, i'm my culture, this is the quickest way of getting the police involved...

2004-12-02 [Sunrose]: so? we are not just in your culture here

2004-12-02 [RabidSphinx]: damn...*hides*

2004-12-02 [Sunrose]: :P

2004-12-02 [Whim]: Oh, badass! A police orgy!

2004-12-02 [Sunrose]: err what?

2004-12-02 [Whim]: Rain said something about getting police involved.

2004-12-02 [RabidSphinx]: *is very afraid*

2004-12-02 [Sunrose]: the cops won't hurt you rd, [Whim] will protect you!

2004-12-02 [RabidSphinx]: i think i am more afraid of [Whim] actually...*hides behind [Sunrose]

2004-12-02 [Sunrose]: beware of his magic wang..eh wand..err

2004-12-02 [RabidSphinx]: lol...*hides more*

2004-12-02 [Sunrose]: I heard his has a little hat... O.o

2004-12-02 [RabidSphinx]: (O.o)

2004-12-02 [Sunrose]: and sometimes it grows..

2004-12-02 [RabidSphinx]: eekk! can't ever be as big as my bf's...sorry [Whim]

2004-12-02 [Whim]: Whoa...what are yall talking about? Sunrose, are you trying to turn this into some sort of sexual discussion?

2004-12-02 [RabidSphinx]: i think she is...she must like you...you should stalk her now...*runs away to leave [Sunrose] and [Whim] alone together*

2004-12-02 [Sunrose]: what are you talking about [Whim]? are you hitting on me? :O

2004-12-02 [RabidSphinx]: lol...better you than me...

2004-12-03 [Whim]: lol...of course I am, Sun. And Rain, I would never forget about you, dear...lol.

2004-12-03 [RabidSphinx]: RAINE!! get it right!

2004-12-03 [Whim]: That's not how you spell Rain, silly. Look it up in the dictionary.

2004-12-03 [Sunrose]: [Whim] is pimpin us! whoaaa!!

2004-12-03 [RabidSphinx]: it is how *i* spell my name so get it right!

2004-12-03 [Whim]: It's not even your real name.

2004-12-03 [RabidSphinx]: it has been my nickname for a LONG time and it is spelled R-A-I-N-E!

2004-12-03 [Whim]: oh...so I guess I gave you a new nickname then...hehehe.

2004-12-03 [RabidSphinx]: <---[Whim]

2004-12-03 [Whim]: so whenever you see a donkey, you're gonna think of me? Awww....that's almost sweet...hehehe.

2004-12-03 [RabidSphinx]: i rarely see donkeys around...only jack-asses like you

2004-12-03 [Whim]: so anytime you see a jack-ass like me, you'll think of me?

2004-12-03 [RabidSphinx]: no...probably not...only if it *is* you i will think of you...otherwise i will just be thinking of home much i would love to throw the other jack-ass into fast moving trafic

2004-12-03 [Whim]: hmmm...well, surely from now on, whenever you see a grapefruit, you'll think of me...lol.

2004-12-03 [RabidSphinx]: a grapefruit? why the hell would i think that? i *like* greapfruits...

2004-12-03 [Whim]: Simply because I just mentioned it...lol. Now when you see a grapefruit, you'll try not to think of me, which would be thinking of me since you make an effort not to, so yeah...have fun with grapefruits now...lol.

2004-12-03 [RabidSphinx]: i haven't seen a grapefruit in a long time...and i have a poor memory...i will forget all about this by the time i see another grapefruit...

2004-12-03 [Whim]: it's not a matter of whether or not you have a good memory or not. It's simple word association. WHIM=GRAPEFRUIT. It's now subliminally placed in your mind. The more we talk about it, the more likely you'll see a grapefruit and cringe at the thought of whim.

2004-12-03 [RabidSphinx]: ewww...oh-well...you will pop into my mide and i will fantasize about you getting hit by a truck

2004-12-03 [Whim]: and then whenever you see a truck, you'll think of me...lol.

2004-12-03 [RabidSphinx]: naw...i have many more jack-asses i actually know in person i think of when i see fast moving traffic...but i'm sure after i eliminate a few, you will be bumbed up on my list

2004-12-03 [Whim]: oh well....we'll always have grapefruits...hehehe.

2004-12-03 [RabidSphinx]: yah...i'll give you that much...

2004-12-03 [Sunrose]: hmm [Whim]: why do you want her to think of you all the time? do you want her too or something? :o I thought we were an item! :'(

2004-12-03 [RabidSphinx]: yeah [Whim] you should pay attention to your little [Sunrose] and leave me alone...

2004-12-03 [Sunrose]: No no, [1st Font] is already groping me...

2004-12-03 [RabidSphinx]: casn't you handle both of them at once? lol

2004-12-03 [Sunrose]: no, because [1st Font] is very demanding.... :D

2004-12-03 [Whim]: I have to prepare Rain as a backup just in case Font gets too stengy.

2004-12-03 [Sunrose]: err what?

2004-12-03 [RabidSphinx]: (o.O)<--confused...

2004-12-03 [Whim]: Don’t think about it. I’m at work and sick and little will probably make sense for the next few hours.

2004-12-03 [Sunrose]: oh okay! we will await your return..

2004-12-03 [Whim]: I'm not going anywhere...lol.

2004-12-03 [Sunrose]: *licks*

2004-12-03 [Whim]: That's some fine licking there...lol.

2004-12-03 [Sunrose]: roflmao

2004-12-03 [RabidSphinx]: lol...she is also a butt spanker...but i am a butt pincher...hehehe

2004-12-03 [Whim]: hmmm...but which do I prefer?

2004-12-03 [Sunrose]: who says?

2004-12-03 [RabidSphinx]: lol...i like to beat people up...ask any of my friends (who all just happen to all be guys) and they will tell you that i throw them around all the time...sometimes i worry that i accidentally *really* hit them and hurt them, but none of them for some reason ever complain...it's odd

2004-12-03 [Whim]: What’s so odd about it? Perhaps you’re just not doing the damage you think you are. Or perhaps all your guy friends are horny. It could be both.

2004-12-03 [RabidSphinx]: maybe...but sometimes i play hit them but they accidentally walk into it or something and they get a bloody lip and then i feel bad and that is the time i would expect them to say no more beating us up...but they don't...they say something stupid and i punt them in the shins and i know it hurts, but they never stop saying dumb things, or dodge the kick...they are odd...horny? most deffinetly...but do guys get off being beat up by a girl?

2004-12-03 [Whim]: Oh, well...yeah...I laugh when any of my friends make me bleed too...hehe. And as for guys getting off on getting beat up--um...depends on the guy I suppose. I’m sure getting punched in the face doesn’t quite do it for them, but anything that can be perceived as playful can be quite arousing or at least just fun. I know I find an odd amount of joy from getting playfully slapped for saying the wrong thing...hehe.

2004-12-03 [Sunrose]: I was talking about you claiming that I am a butt spanker..

2004-12-03 [RabidSphinx]: *innocent* i never said any such thing...*runs away*

2004-12-03 [Sunrose]: 20:13:42 RaineDrop: lol...she is also a butt spanker...but i am a butt pincher...hehehe

2004-12-03 [RabidSphinx]: damn...caught...no comment...*hides* i'm still a butt pincher....

2004-12-03 [RabidSphinx]: the boys like it when i hang on them...and when we see each other in the halls we bump into each other and grunt while saying "rape"...i threw Sean into a locker today before ADV Art and "raped" him...we are an odd bunch...

2004-12-03 [Whim]: That’s not that odd. It’s extermely normal behavior amongst most guy/girl friendships.

2004-12-03 [RabidSphinx]: lol...it's like a hug, only with more bumping and grunting...

2004-12-03 [Whim]: lol...yep...it’s cause of the underlying sexual tension. Very normal.

2004-12-03 [RabidSphinx]: lol...maybe that's why i only have guy friends...oh, and Vicki...but i rape her too...and she loves it...(^_-)

2004-12-03 [Whim]: that’s because girls are naturally perverted...lol.

2004-12-03 [RabidSphinx]: and guys aren't? lol

2004-12-03 [Whim]: I didn’t say guys weren’t, but girls actually have more sexual energy built up than guys, so while most girls don’t show it, they’re far more perverted than most guys.

2004-12-03 [RabidSphinx]: lol

2004-12-03 [Sunrose]: where did you get that from? girls having more sexual energy..

2004-12-03 [RabidSphinx]: i have no clue...i think he just pulled it out of his ass...

2004-12-03 [Sunrose]: euw that stinks!

2004-12-03 [Whim]: Well, it’s mostly just theory that I got from my own head, but if you really think about it, girls tend to not be so open with their feelings about sex where as guys will indulge themselves at every chance. So guys are constant releasing their sexual energy on some level while girls tend to hold back and try to keep from looking and sounding slutty, so it just stay with them. The only release most girls use is mild flirting. So all the thoughts that come with that built up energy are stuck in their head.

2004-12-03 [Sunrose]: you are assuming girls are as much occupied with sex as guys are, which is not so...

2004-12-03 [RabidSphinx]: yah...girls are just not as horny as guys so don't have to act on such impules all the time like guys

2004-12-03 [Whim]: no, people just assume girls are less occupied with sex. The only reason guys end up being more occupied is because society is constantly throwing all kinds of images and thoughts at guys. Girls get all those messages about how they should look and guys get all those images of sexy girls. On top of that, everyone tells us to think a certain way. So guys are only this occupied with sex because we’re trained to. But girls want sex just as much as guys do.

2004-12-03 [RabidSphinx]: um....speacking *as* a girl...i feel i must disagree...no...we are not as preoccupid with sex...few are, but most aren't...

2004-12-03 [Whim]: I agreed that most aren’t as preoccupied. I just said girls want it as much as guys do. But guys have way more things around them telling them to want it so they end up coming off as the horny ones.

2004-12-03 [Sunrose]: hmm..I think I can be occupied with sex yes, yet the general guy is just a tad bit worse than me..

2004-12-04 [RabidSphinx]: i have a question on copywrite...i had a girl make a badge for one of my wiki's and another member asked if she could post it in her house but is worried about getting in trouble with the guards for copyright...the image, i'm not sure where it came from, is of a young infant with the wiki address and a slogen...i can't really make this call and need help...

2004-12-04 [1st Font]: lets see the banner

2004-12-04 [RabidSphinx]: kk... there it is...

2004-12-04 [1st Font]: its fine

2004-12-04 [RabidSphinx]: alright...thank you...that's what i thought but i needed to make sure so i didn't tell her the wrong thing.

2004-12-18 [Broken saints]: Are we blocking celebs too or no?

2004-12-18 [RabidSphinx]: nope...

2004-12-18 [Sunrose]: What's IN the rules is not allowed. What's not in the rules is not in the rules... :)

2004-12-18 [RabidSphinx]: *pounces on [Sunrose]* aww...i am no longer your cutest pet...i was taken off as a nomination...but you can vote for my cat Raine!

2004-12-18 [Sunrose]: Lol, I know :/  aaahw okay! ^^

2004-12-25 [Lioness123]: is a pic of a 15 year old girl showing off her thong considered child porn? I found a girl on here who has a pic of herself and am thinking about reporting it

2004-12-26 [Whim]: um...possibly. I'd have to see the pic.

2004-12-26 [Demonia Darkblade]: I asked that same question

2004-12-26 [1st Font]: [Lioness123] If the person in question is 15, and she hasnt used a picture of a model (etc) then yes it is illegal child imagery and it will be deleted.

2004-12-27 [Demonia Darkblade]: WHOOT! They were delted :) hehehehehe

2004-12-28 [Aurea]: Question. I have a picture of a celebrity, but I took it myself... Is that okay?

2004-12-28 [1st Font]: yes

2004-12-28 [Aurea]: Okay... Now the trick is actually getting the image... Grr... I have a video clip, and it's not letting me take a frame out of the clip, so I can't do a thing about it... I can't upload the damn thing anyways... (pardon my language).

2004-12-28 [Whim]: pause the video while it's playing and then take a screen shot by pressing the "Print Screen" button on your keyboard. Then open photoshop or paint or whatever you use and paste the image into the program.

2005-01-01 [Human Casualties]: Would artistict and cultural nudity be allowed?

2005-01-01 [1st Font]: yes

2005-01-01 [Human Casualties]: thank you

2005-01-04 [no longer here.]: question, is an image that has been copied allowed? I have seen these...

2005-01-04 [1st Font]: allowed if original copy right is mentioned

2005-01-18 [Yuriona]: What's our stance on celebrity photos?? Are they allowed or are they copyrighted material that gets taken down??

2005-01-18 [Sunrose]: We don't have a written rule on copyright...

2005-01-19 [Yuriona]: UAR?

2005-01-19 [Sunrose]: Fixed! :)

2005-02-01 [RabidSphinx]: i have a question about the C) Moving Images (GIFs) / Mood Imagery rule....alot of people have moving images in their houses, including me, and i have not reported on such things...are they *completely* not allowed, or just not in excessive amounts of pointless animations?

2005-02-01 [Yuriona]: I'd say they're alright except in the annoying excessive amount of pointless animations. I don't mind looking at a house with one or two animated gifs but if I see dozens of dancing Gir or wobbly penguins, they are toast!

2005-02-01 [RabidSphinx]: so, like, if i see a house (i see alot of these) that just have an endless amount of GIFS, any and all they have ever found and liked, and just have them listed on their house...or, like you said, the 100 dancing gir, i should report them?

2005-02-01 [Sunrose]: If there are a lot and they're annoying, yes...

2005-02-01 [RabidSphinx]: alright...mine aren't alot or annoying are they? my pikachu?

2005-02-01 [Yuriona]: Yes please. ^^ A few animations are ok but an entire page of the useless, wastes of code is just annoying.

2005-02-01 [Sunrose]: weren't you going to clean up your house after the awards RD? (because it has so many images that I couldn't find your new one and such the other day)

2005-02-01 [RabidSphinx]: yeah...and i did...i took down a LOT of images, and some text, and took all my wiki badges and threw them on a little wiki page since they took up a LOT of space, and posted new art....i thought that was a bit of a clean out...not enough?

2005-02-01 [Sunrose]: lol!

2005-02-01 [RabidSphinx]: i could do more...i was thinking of taking al my text out since noone reads it anyways...

2005-02-01 [Sunrose]: The thing that I would change is your photo- and drawingslot. A few images in there is alright (like the standard 2 and 2 addies), but you have so many in there.. :)

2005-02-01 [RabidSphinx]: yeah...i know...i have, lets see, my eli shrine under my photo, then a photo of me, and a wiki badge...then under my drawing slot i have, um, 2 drawings...

2005-02-01 [Sunrose]: Takes quite some space..it'll probably look better in the description....I am not saying though that your house is ugly, don't take me the wrong way :)

2005-02-01 [RabidSphinx]: yeah...i know what you mean...but then, it would just take up a LOT of space in my profile, meaning no one would bother reading it at ALL, meaning a *should* take my text out...then were would i be? *sighs* i hate me

2005-02-02 [Ihsahn]: are celebrity pictures even allowed i see a lot of them, aren't they copyrighted material?